This Game is Boring Without Player to Player interaction

Personally, I didn’t miss other players when I played Elite in the 80’s, or Frontier in the 90’s; and I don’t miss them in Dangerous these days. The game works for me just the way it is. I wouldn’t mind not having to deal with the constantly online aspect of it, but as long as I can play in solo I’m perfectly happy.
 
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That is a pointless remark.
I am not interested in x4.

I enjoy Elite Dangerous, and have been a fan of Elite for decades, but I think ED would have been a much better game if the devs could have forgotten about all the nonsense that is necessary for multiplayer. That is not true the other way around. If this was an Open only game the ED galaxy would have still needed all the mechanics and stuff that is needed to create the ED universe and to keep it going. Multiplayer holds Elite back in a very one sided manner.

But... I understand that many people want multiplayer and I have to accept that.
It just is my bad luck that that stuff influences my solo experience in a negative way too. Just imagine all the time and money invested in developing multiplayer mechanics that could have been used otherwise.
It is what it is. I hope to live long enough to see this game evolve further, because it will be the only spacesim of this kind for the foreseeable future.
You mentioned money and a single player environment. Not quite sure how my remark is pointless?
 
In my opinion, crime and punishment is possibly the weakest system in the game. There is not much I would want from EvE Online, however the way it did it security levels and law and order was very good.

A total rethink is needed. Plus the creation of good pirate play options with pirate bases and a bad person alternative to the pilots federation, for when you have been so much of an anti-social that you cannot go into civilised systems without god level engineered npcs blowing the snot out of you within a min of arriving.

In this way you have game play options. If you want to be bad you can, but you need to understand there are real consequences and you are going to be living on the fringes. Where as if you want to be in a lightly armed trader, you can, but you best stick to the well protected high security pockets.
 
Having come out of "Solo Jail" where I was locked all winter long (bandwidth issues), I've been looking for and interacting with players for the last couple of weeks. I hate to say it, but player-to-player interactions in this game are boring, at least on PS4. If I'm looking for PvP, I get a thousand times better experience playing just about any other console game - Overwatch, CODMW, SWB2, etc. If I'm looking to chat, well here I am, chatting! Neither PvP nor "social bonding" is "all that" in ED, at least not for me.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not quitting Open. I'm just quitting trying to find and interact with real people in Open. I'll be playing (when I play) like I was back when I was locked in Solo, except now I have some very random chances to run into hollow vs. solid squares and triangles. Somebody may even type, "O7", but there's this NPC who actually promises to write a song about me, so he wins.

Note - the new CGs may change all this.
 
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Tired of fighting NPC's that do the same thing. Tired of searching for people only to find none and when I do they're to scared to interact. The game feels lifeless.
Community Goals were the only place you knew you'd find people. Now? Nothing but a boring gank fest at eravate, shinrarta etc.. I took a one year break to come back to an even more lifeless game albeit a slightly more polished look. Elite is still one big missed opportunity and that really makes me sad.
I think FD is run by geeks who just don't get it about social interaction.
 
I enjoy Elite Dangerous, and have been a fan of Elite for decades, but I think ED would have been a much better game if the devs could have forgotten about all the nonsense that is necessary for multiplayer. That is not true the other way around. If this was an Open only game the ED galaxy would have still needed all the mechanics and stuff that is needed to create the ED universe and to keep it going. Multiplayer holds Elite back in a very one sided manner.
Yesss... up to a point. I'd have much preferred the same amount of effort to have gone in to an entirely single player game, but with a single player game we'd have been much more likely to have got the game, a few patches, maybe a few bits of DLC, that's it. So it might've been better earlier on but multiplayer keeps the game being developed.
 
Tired of fighting NPC's that do the same thing. Tired of searching for people only to find none and when I do they're to scared to interact. The game feels lifeless.
Community Goals were the only place you knew you'd find people. Now? Nothing but a boring gank fest at eravate, shinrarta etc.. I took a one year break to come back to an even more lifeless game albeit a slightly more polished look. Elite is still one big missed opportunity and that really makes me sad.
Yeah, I feel the same. It's kind of tough, ED features a huge galaxy with a relatively small player base and really long travel times; combine these factors with suspicion borne of ganking, and it does feel pretty empty.

If there are any laid back CMDRs who need a casual squadron, look up the Order of the Prismatic Sparrow on INARA. Link in my sig.
 
ugh No, why/how should it (?)

I've spent considerable time wirh various Groups and it's been a good experience.
Hence IMHO the best way to enrich Gameplay. I'd reckon I'm not alone with that and there's a huge amount of Groups out there to check out.
a casual google text match would suggest otherwise.
 
Both Planet Coaster and Jurassic Park are single player by design. How hard would it be to add multiplayer so you can compete with other players directly where sims choose where to go depending on how good your park is?
 
Awkward... please post your google search strings, I'd be very interested how you got bad/negative results on the Suggestion to seek a suitable Group to spice up Gameplay and not feel alone anymore...
I do wish the game had better tools built in for this purpose. I think Squadrons is a step in the right direction, and perhaps the revamped community goals will take it a step further still. ED is the only game I have that requires me to go to use dozens of external tools (Google, Inara, Discord, this forum, etc.) to arrange a potentially meaningful multiplayer experience.
 
Tired of fighting NPC's that do the same thing. Tired of searching for people only to find none and when I do they're to scared to interact. The game feels lifeless.
Community Goals were the only place you knew you'd find people. Now? Nothing but a boring gank fest at eravate, shinrarta etc.. I took a one year break to come back to an even more lifeless game albeit a slightly more polished look. Elite is still one big missed opportunity and that really makes me sad.
The game does seem to have missed the opportunity over the years to bolt on more involved gameplay mechanics and then leverage them within Powerplay tasks, general missions and the Thargoid Invasions etc...

eg: Just imagine if an adapted Powerplay view specifically to show the Thargoid position allowed CMDRs to undertake specific tasks for specific goals? eg: You and a couple of friends being able to holome into fighters based at a capital ship to escort a convoy of civilian ships though an asteroid based to be refuelled and then go into a asteroid station, all the while under threat of attack from Thargoid Scouts...
 
I completely agree, there always comes a point in Elite where you seem to burn out. Normally the only way to get past that is try new functionality. But what happens when you've tried everything that's possible for the Lone Wolf to try, then that's when you join a player group and one of their squadrons/discords.

It's ironic really that the popularity of the player group and the BGS game really came out of the fact that Powerplay didn't really tick the 'endgame' box. The BGS goes to show that there is appetite for that kind of organisation vs organisation conflict.
 
Both Planet Coaster and Jurassic Park are single player by design. How hard would it be to add multiplayer so you can compete with other players directly where sims choose where to go depending on how good your park is?
So you launch a 120 mph roller coaster which goes off the rails and flies directly at the food court of your enemy player's park, then send the T-Rex in to swallow up the survivors.

Oh, the salt.........
 
I played in Open when I first started with ED, mainly because I didn't know any better then. Joined a PG, which I am still part of, and while I don't meet human CMDRs often, generally it's only an exchange of 'o7' as we pass each other by. I tried open again after The Oracle attacked, and other pilots constantly trying to ram me got rather boring, so went back to the PG, where I've been ever since.

I think that your typical CMDRs lifestyle is rather solitary, with minimal/no interaction with anyone else unless required for trade etc. Heck, I ignore NPCs interdicting me/attempting to, I ignore NPCs as I turn them into space dust when bounty hunting etc. There really is no reason to interact with anyone, human or NPC, in ED if you don't want to.
 
You mentioned money and a single player environment. Not quite sure how my remark is pointless?
I have been an Elite fan for decades. I have been waiting for the rebirth of Elite for decades. I bought the game, bought the LEP, bought a new HOTAS, Headtracking gear etc.
What you are saying is basically " Go play another game (a game I don't care for), than the game you are interested in"
I interpreted that as a gratuitous, pointless remark.
Perhaps you didn't mean it to be, but that is the way it came across.
 

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Tired of fighting NPC's that do the same thing. Tired of searching for people only to find none and when I do they're to scared to interact. The game feels lifeless.
Community Goals were the only place you knew you'd find people. Now? Nothing but a boring gank fest at eravate, shinrarta etc.. I took a one year break to come back to an even more lifeless game albeit a slightly more polished look. Elite is still one big missed opportunity and that really makes me sad.
My in game name is CMDR R E P L I C A N T
Hit me up if you want to pvp with me or my friends. Always down for a duel in my Gunship!
 
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