As most people know, bugs are a huge part of my dissatisfaction with the game. The shadows on base PS4 are so atrociously terrible that it just ruins the visuals, and that's a game-killer for a game that offers visuals as a reward. So for example, I have no interest in visiting the Inara bases or generation ships or other things that I would go to "look" at, because they now look rubbish on my platform. If they looked good, then I think I could stretch a few more weeks of enjoyment out of the game.If I was a hardcore player, I probably would have also abandoned Elite some time ago. Heck, during those early turbulent years, I did abandon Elite because I could not stomach the endless bugs and broken mechanics. And while the mechanics have improved, the bugs/glitches I routinely encounter are frankly inexcusable for a game that has been in active development for 4+ years now. Honestly, I have recently returned (yet again ) to dabbling with my Eve Online alpha clone because I am tired of tripping over Elite's bugs that seem to rear their ugly heads even in a quick and routine 30-minute gameplay session. So, yeah, despite Old Duck dismissing the bugs, for me that would be a big reason why I might have reached "the end" if I was a hardcore player.
Your post got me thinking that the Digital Age is sort of like Plato's Allegory of the Cave, but for the modern age. The people in chains staring at the shadows on the wall could very well be us staring at our smart phones, computers and TV's.Im finding Kerbal most amusing atm. But my gaming days are nearing an end. I just dont find the time nor the inclination thesedays. I prefer to read a book or listen to music. This is not ED's fault, its just gaming in general and computers. I'm feeling analogue more and more. The digital world is not fullfilling.
I've seen gaming evolve from the pong and Atari 2600 to modern. Most modern games are soo similar--cookie cutter. It's getting boring in general.Let's put aside bugs and shadows and elephant butt leather for a moment and focus just on the game itself. I fired up Elite Dangerous after a few months on hiatus, did some things, and then exited with the thought, "I think I really am done with the game..." It just doesn't 'scratch the itch' like it used to. This is not a critique, as the same thing happened to me with other "open ended" games like Skyrim, Spider-Man, and even MMOs like DCUO and ESO. I just never thought it would happen with Elite.
I hang out here in the forums because I have a lot of nostalgia and good memories from my early days of playing Elite, and I have hope that perhaps new gameplay, missions, stories, etc. will someday be added to draw me back. Still, I'm kinda disappointed that the ride is over.
Like I said, this is not a critique or slam against Elite. I have plenty of those, but that's not the purpose of this thread. I'm not done because of bugs or even graphics, but rather that I just don't derive the joy of doing the things ED has to offer like I once did. I got over 2 years out of the game, which include some of the best memories in my gaming history, so I'm not 'rage quitting', just walking away into the sunset on a distance moon. Surely I'm not the only one to go through this. If you have a similar story, I'd love to hear it. Misery loves company, after all!
And no, you can't haz my stuff. If space legs and base building truly are coming to the game someday, I'll be back!
Gods, I envy you. When I think of what I could've been doing with all my free time if I hadn't wasted it all on games.Im finding Kerbal most amusing atm. But my gaming days are nearing an end. I just dont find the time nor the inclination thesedays. I prefer to read a book or listen to music. This is not ED's fault, its just gaming in general and computers. I'm feeling analogue more and more. The digital world is not fullfilling.
I've had all the same thoughts, many times. I find it Interesting that people seem to be getting bored with gaming in general, I guess I'm not the only one that feels that way from time to time. I don't really feel bad about consuming some digital entertainment, or that I've wasted time and that is because most people watch TV, spend time on Social Media or other websites, plus all the time spent on their phone, when I do very little to none of these. I only play games. 95% of my screen time (outside of my job) is spent playing games. I have a Smart phone that I barely use, I don't watch TV, I barely watch movies anymore. I'm either listening to music, writing music, or sometimes I read a book, like a Biography on Bob Dylan for example, or another good non-fiction book, or a good fantasy novel by Terry Brooks. Outside of those things I spend about 1- 2 hours a night playing games before I go to bed.Gods, I envy you. When I think of what I could've been doing with all my free time if I hadn't wasted it all on games.
Roll on the end of my gaming days too.
It's a matter of finding the right balance imho.Gods, I envy you. When I think of what I could've been doing with all my free time if I hadn't wasted it all on games.
Roll on the end of my gaming days too.
Three options;My affinity towards gaming is like the tide, it comes in during winter (which are long and harsh where I live) and goes out in the summer. Giving it some reflection, I'm sure this at least partially influences my sentiments in the OP. For example, Subnautica is my "ED replacement" right now, but am I playing Subnautica at the moment? Nope. My summer games of choice tend to be the short, fast, and hectic PvP games like Overwatch. When I want to relax in the summer, I'd rather sit outside or take a stroll in the woods, not sit in supercruise for minutes at a time or wait for geological POIs to take forever to resolve in the FSS...
So yeah, seasons and weather may have something to do with it. If I lived in a place like Greece along the sea, I might not even be a gamer! If I was, I would probably be using the Nintento Switch while looking out over the Med, LOL.
I'm back to playing Privateer...I'm seeing similar path with ED. The entire appeal of space games for me is DISCOVERY and ADVENTURE. To find something NEVER SEEN BEFORE. After 2 years, ED has very little "new" to see. The wow factor is fading. I just hope Fleet Carriers aren't just limited use bigger ships to engineer. It's sad that the old Freespace 2 with mods are more fun at the moment for me. I even started playing IL-2 1946 as a change of pace. Fly Safe Commander o7.
Im finding Kerbal most amusing atm. But my gaming days are nearing an end. I just dont find the time nor the inclination thesedays. I prefer to read a book or listen to music. This is not ED's fault, its just gaming in general and computers. I'm feeling analogue more and more. The digital world is not fullfilling.
I had this same draw away from digital and towards analog a few years back. I think the reason that digital is so often unsatisfying is because the scope of the reality it offers is so limited compared with real life. This is why I no longer waste my time with arcade-like games and focus more on games that are complex enough to either mimic real life (in the scope of the game) like a real sim (DCS etc) or have intricate (fantasy) mechanics (Divinity 2 etc).Your post got me thinking that the Digital Age is sort of like Plato's Allegory of the Cave, but for the modern age. The people in chains staring at the shadows on the wall could very well be us staring at our smart phones, computers and TV's.
I understand completely. For the casual gamer I am, I find ongoing pleasure in even doing repetitive missions like cargo runs, etc. Simple minds, simple pleasures, I guess. That is why there always seems to be another chapter for me to explore in ED. As long as those missions are there for me, missions that give me an excuse to explore new systems and try different activities in those systems, I will always have a good time (I like to RP, so the repetitive content helps frame a story in my head that is unique to me, as opposed to some scripted narrative I am forced into, but that is another story). But this is also why the bugs drive me nuts because I am not asking for a lot from Frontier, just simple, repetitive missions that work the way they are supposed too! It never fails to amuse me how after spending a bunch of hours with Elite I usually find myself wandering over to Eve Online for a few hours because of how polished it is. I never had one game that I really, really like drive me to another that I don't like as much because of frustration before. It is quite the achievement on the part of Frontier.So long story short, bugs did indeed cause me to hit "The End" quicker than I otherwise would have, and if Frontier ever gets of their Remlock suited butts and fix these bugs, I'll be back for awhile longer, but all it really would do is add one more chapter (perhaps the epilogue) to a book that I feel I've mostly finished. That's why I decided not to make the OP about the bugs but the "book".
If by system you mean the Cobra engine, then yes I agree. If by system you mean PS4, then I've got dozens of other games that scream, "My PS4 is way more capable than what I'm seeing in ED." In fact, Elite Dangerous is one of the least hardware-utilizing games I own, based on power consumption measurements, showing that it's the engine, not the hardware, that is falling behind.I think the PS4 is running out of grunt as the updates keep coming,it wasn’t always like this it’s just a byproduct of playing an ever evolving game on a system that can’t evolve with it.
I’ve had my pro set to performance mode because i’ve concentrated on combat for a while,last night I approached a planet in the camera suite and was shocked how bad the textures were. Put it into quality mode and it looked great.
I’m assuming the last update pushed the platform a little far,but maybe with some optimisation it will improve.
As does Spider-Man, Horizon Zero Dawn, and many other titles. Heck, even the old Skyrim Remastered looks amazing on PS4 (though the character models are obviously dated). I have no doubt that Frontier has been lazy in optimizing updates for PS4 after the initial release. Shame that, because I felt they did a stellar job when they originally brought ED to PS4 back with version 2.3.I haven't played it (as I only really play E anyway) but apparently, Red Dead Redemption 2 and Metro Exodus look tremendous on the PS4. If that's the case then the problem is with the optimisation on the PS4.