Ships Chieftain Chieftain or Challenger?

Title says it all, looking to add one of these to my fleet but not sure as to which one. The wiki says the challenger is allegedly an upgrade, but I’ve seen youtubers and people online disagree and claim the chieftain is superior. What do?
 
Preference imo, its more of a sidegrade kinda thing, more tank and firepower in the Challenger, more manuverability and speed in the Chieftan.

Both are good with a variety of loadouts as they boast arguably the most versatile hardpoint layout on any medium ship bar the Gunship.

I will say though the biggest downside for them is easy to target drives, I feel like the issue is somewhat more pronounced on the Chieftan due to the extra thrusters upfront but still, its a problem they both suffer. They are both a hell of a lot of fun though.
 
I bought the Chieftain because I wanted the maneuverability as mentioned by Voracity_T. I called her ChiefScalphunter and rigged her for combat. I PvE and loved it's ability to stay on the tails of other medium and bigger ships and do very well against smaller ships. All this just got better with engineering.

I did though use module reinforcement almost from the get go because of what I read in posts.
 
Having flown both, I definitely recommend the Chieftain over the Challenger.

Too me the extra speed and agility made a much bigger difference
 
I've had good times in both. The Challenger has less in the way of concentrated firepower because it trades the large hardpoint up top with two underneath. I wasn't able to find a loadout I really liked even though putting three racks of pack hounds on the bottom was great fun. I think it would make for a great AX multicrew ship with turreted flak in the bottom to keep the thargon swarms at bay, but until Multicrew and Wings can work at the same time... meh.

The Chieftain can concentrate hella fire with its top hardpoints. It wrecks face. I have been doing PvE in a multirole, installation and megaship hacking/piracy build and having a grand time.
 
I have both fully A rated and engineered. I love the Cheiftain the most because of the speed and maneuverability. Get a bi weave thermal resistance shield with resistance augmented boosters and its almost unkillable by npc's.... almost.

The challenger I use to fight thargoid interceptors since I need more armor for that, though the current meta every is using is the krait 2. I like to be different.
 
I just added a Chief to my fleet. I can't attest to its performance dogfighting yet but after watching some vids and reading here I could not resist. I wanted a non-SLF combat ship to keep at the base I don't have my FDL docked.

What flying I've done has be very fun. I plan on some combat the next few days ... when RL gets the hell out of the way.

GL HF
 
Challenger all the way, just a bit higher dps, shields and hull (by a margin).

The Challenger has slightly less pitchrate but it’s hardly noticible.
The chieftain is more drifty, especially doing tight turns. It’s better than a FAS or FDL, but you will lose speed.

The Challenger is the best non drifting pitch turning ship in the game in my experience.

With dd3 drives or above you’ll pith at a rate about 54/sec which is quite good - without drifting or loosing speed! The Chieftain can’t do this.
You can even preset thrust to 75% (above the bluezone) and you’ll still have a non drifting pitch-rate just above 50/sec. Doing this will keep your combat speed above whatever the chieftain can achieve in the bluezone - in a comparable manouver the chief would loose momentum and speed.
The Challenger keeps flying at same speed
The flightmodel is astounding. I didn’t even care for fa/off when manouvering this ship.

It’s basically like a large vulture with a little less manouverability, same shields, higher hulls, better internals and the ability to add 3 rail cannons.
 
It’s basically like a large vulture with a little less manouverability, same shields, higher hulls, better internals and the ability to add 3 rail cannons
I didn't really like the flight model of the Chieftain. But I really like the Vulture, so perhaps the Challenger is the way to go.
 
I didn't really like the flight model of the Chieftain. But I really like the Vulture, so perhaps the Challenger is the way to go.
Felt the same way - came from the FAS, which was way too drifty, especially when landing. The Chieftain was a step up in every way possible, but flightmodel was off still (especially the sharp turn stalling).

The Challenger was the answer.

After skme time I could finally afford a fdl. This also has stalling issues, but it’s more manageble. And the dps+shields was very op for any pve engagement.

This led me back into my beloved vulture which I fly now (I really prefer small ships for some reason). But the Challenger is my preferred medium combat ship for sure. Especially for how it handles
 
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