ANNOUNCEMENT Arx FAQ

Can you all please stop the thread here until I'm back, I just saw the electronics store has that thing I bought there last year for half off AND people get a trinket with every purchase, so I'm going to complain to head office about unfair treatment.
If all else fails, I'm fully prepared to lurk near the exit all day and shoot everyone who participates in this disgusting business practice disapproving glances.
Actually, if you scroll up you'll find that I mentioned 'sales at a reduced price' are standard practice. However, giving stuff away free that other purchased fairly with no expectation, or indication that it would ever be free, is just taking the piddle!
 
How many here support letting everyone have access to the Cobra MK IV? If you do, great. If not, please tell us all why not.

Who here supports letting others have opportunity to buy a lifetime pass (or access to the gear they get using ARX)? Why/why not? Cheers.
 
How many here support letting everyone have access to the Cobra MK IV? If you do, great. If not, please tell us all why not.

Who here supports letting others have opportunity to buy a lifetime pass (or access to the gear they get using ARX)? Why/why not? Cheers.
Okay to both questions.
 
After a quick think I have now 180'd on Arx, and demand FDev fix the outragously unfair policy of allowing us to earn cosmetics by playing the game, by replacing it with the consumer-friendly practices of lootboxes. After all, kids love gambling. And add in pay2win too, that's what real gamers want. Praise be to RNGesus! 🤑
In this official announcement thread, are you helping to clarify the situation, or just trolling? Because I'm thinking trolling. I certainly don't think your extreme stance is helping anyone.

People are expressing concerns and that feedback is something they want FDev to take on board. I'm quite sure none of those you are mocking are in the least concerned that you think they are beneath contempt, and would certainly be concerned if the company that they paid to provide an ongoing service had such extreme views you apparently hold.

So maybe you could reign it in a bit & stop trying to wind people up.
 
Cool! So people can get this stuff just by playing the game, while players up to now couldn't while blocked off from flying every ship in the game! Sweet!

I'm glad that players have a means to get some livery stuff without mtx. cause those kinds of things honestly go a long way in this game. I've taken to using one type of covas for one manufacturer to give the ships more regional/cultural character.

But this isn't so nice as a post-cobraiv pre-arx player.

fix the cobra
 
In all honesty, I probably won't care that much come time for release and the change - updates, etc. However, I do think there is a valid point in some of what I'm stating as respects others who have paid money and expect that the stuff they have obtained due to that payment remain unique to them (and their special little group - lifetime backers, Cobra MKIV 'owners', etc.).

Whereas, we who have been long-time players, and supporters, apparently are not expected to feel disgruntled when Frontier announces that ARX is coming and that all things that were previously obtainable via Frontier Store using real cash (as good as the money paid by Lifetime backers, and Cobra MK IV 'owners'), are expected to shut up and accept the change without any objections.

Try suggesting that we should now have access to Lifetime backer content, or the Cobra MK IV and you'll soon find all sorts of people coming out of the woodwork objecting to this. But it's alright to give away everything free (soon, via ARX) that I, and others, have purchased... :unsure:

Still, the majority commenting here seem to have no problem with it. Probably because they haven't spent very much, if anything, on Game Extras. I guess I'm the only sucker here who has...😳
I have paid for stuff I think the change is great. Not a problem in the slightest. As to lifetime backer content, we all get access to that, they have just paid in advance and we have to pay when it comes out.

Lifetime backers don't get anything special (apart for the small pack of skins as an apology for taking so long for the next expansion).
 
In this official announcement thread, are you helping to clarify the situation, or just trolling? Because I'm thinking trolling. I certainly don't think your extreme stance is helping anyone.

People are expressing concerns and that feedback is something they want FDev to take on board. I'm quite sure none of those you are mocking are in the least concerned that you think they are beneath contempt, and would certainly be concerned if the company that they paid to provide an ongoing service had such extreme views you apparently hold.

So maybe you could reign it in a bit & stop trying to wind people up.
Agreed, forum-banter should be outlawed IMO
 
I have paid for stuff I think the change is great. Not a problem in the slightest. As to lifetime backer content, we all get access to that, they have just paid in advance and we have to pay when it comes out.

Lifetime backers don't get anything special (apart for the small pack of skins as an apology for taking so long for the next expansion).
Lifetime backers were able, early on, to 'pay in advance', and current players will ultimately have to pay more in the long run to access what lifetime backers will get access to. How about Frontier let us all have the opportunity to become lifetime backers... ?

At any rate, and in all seriousness, I think that Lifetime backers should have everything that is available on the Frontier Store - right now (but more especially when ARX is released).

And your opinion on the Cobra MKIV - allowing all to have access to it?
 
I've paid money for various paint jobs, ship kits, etc., and now Frontier are going to allow people to earn ARX to obtain what I have by simply playing the game (like I've been doing for the past several years). I had to buy this stuff with my cash, and now others will be able to obtain it without having to spend any more money. That's not a problem?
You're late to the party. I have paint jobs I won from Frontier's contests, and Ed Lewis used to give away free paint jobs all the time during the live streams.

BTW, soup kitchens give homeless people free food that you paid money for. You should add them to your class-action lawsuit.
 
You're late to the party. I have paint jobs I won from Frontier's contests, and Ed Lewis used to give away free paint jobs all the time during the live streams.

BTW, soup kitchens give homeless people free food that you paid money for. You should add them to your class-action lawsuit.
Giving stuff for a good cause - charity - is commendable. However, Frontier is a business, not a charity - although it does sometimes engage in charitable activities. I full support this type of thing. Likewise, competitions are fine.

I've detailed my gripes above, and have yet to see a reasonable response as to why I should not feel a little disgruntled that I've paid for items that others will soon be able to access for free (had I been made aware of this fact at an earlier point, I might have chosen not to purchase any of the stuff and waited to earn if by simply playing the game - as I have been doing for several years, on and off).
 
Lifetime backers were able, early on, to 'pay in advance', and current players will ultimately have to pay more in the long run to access what lifetime backers will get access to. How about Frontier let us all have the opportunity to become lifetime backers... ?
They may do that again when the next expansion comes out next year.

At any rate, and in all seriousness, I think that Lifetime backers should have everything that is available on the Frontier Store - right now (but more especially when ARX is released).
I disagree. As it is a revenue stream that helps to keep the game being developed, that would be a poor decision.

And your opinion on the Cobra MKIV - allowing all to have access to it?
As a Cobra Mk4 owner, I would have no issues. I have had plenty of time to "enjoy" the ship. I say let some others enjoy it. It should have always been a timed exclusive in my view.
 
Giving stuff for a good cause - charity - is commendable. However, Frontier is a business, not a charity - although it does sometimes engage in charitable activities. I full support this type of thing. Likewise, competitions are fine.

I've detailed my gripes above, and have yet to see a reasonable response as to why I should not feel a little disgruntled that I've paid for items that others will soon be able to access for free (had I been made aware of this fact at an earlier point, I might have chosen not to purchase any of the stuff and waited to earn if by simply playing the game - as I have been doing for several years, on and off).
Unlike most, your issue seems to be with the ability to earn these points for in-game actions. It seems likely that FDev will not want to just give them away willy nilly, because that would significantly devalue the cosmetic products as you imply. You & Fdev both want the same thing, for people to continue to consider cosmetics to have value. There may be an initial training period but it is in FDev's interests to quickly find a rate of progression that someone with an opinion such as yours can tolerate.
 
Well, if you can't see what the problem is I can't really help.

I've paid money for various paint jobs, ship kits, etc., and now Frontier are going to allow people to earn ARX to obtain what I have by simply playing the game (like I've been doing for the past several years). I had to buy this stuff with my cash, and now others will be able to obtain it without having to spend any more money. That's not a problem?

OK, let me purchase the Life-Time pass now - or let me, using ARX have access to the Lifetime pass holder gear. Let everyone have access to the Cobra MKIV. Basically, these things have been ring-fenced because of money paid. Whereas, what some of you are stating is that the money I paid for unique items in the online store doesn't count, and it's OK for others to have access to this free of charge - using ARX - despite the fact that many players have actually bought this stuff for a price!
Ok, let's put it this way, there is a greater chance of us learning whether hell is endothermic or exothermic than FD giving you what you want. These things happen all the time with products. For example, sales. You go to a shop to buy a pair of jeans. You pay $50. The next day they go on sale for $20. Do you charge back in and demand they give you $30 back?

Its absoloutely acceptable for FD to do this and no reason for players to expect any money back for the purchases they made days, weeks, months, or years ago.
 
Ok, let's put it this way, there is a greater chance of us learning whether hell is endothermic or exothermic than FD giving you what you want. These things happen all the time with products. For example, sales. You go to a shop to buy a pair of jeans. You pay $50. The next day they go on sale for $20. Do you charge back in and demand they give you $30 back?

Its absoloutely acceptable for FD to do this and no reason for players to expect any money back for the purchases they made days, weeks, months, or years ago.
That's your opinion. I disagree. It's not acceptable at all. I will expect something back from Frontier...
 
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