Notice A statement on cheating in Elite Dangerous.

For exploits it would be over the top. On that note before the PvP haters roll in let's all keep in mind the OP doesn't mention exploits at all. Installing software to hack the game is way worse than manipulating poor code for an unintended result. Fixing the code and then removing the ill-gotten gains is as fair as this kind of thing can get.

EDIT: Clarity.
Maybe you should only play with people you trust then. I think the PvP cheating issue is just a matter of picking a private group, only you don't want to have to compromise, which is understandable but still a self-solving problem. The BGS/PP issues are harder to solve.
 
And yet not thick enough.



Yes he can, he's under no obligation though.
More than thick enough, i said i simply wouldn't read the rest of his post due to it, doesn't mean i felt personally insulted about it. After all, i mainly fly in open myself these days.

And of course he's under no obligation to be nice. Just as i have no obligation to read drivel like that. (and of course, nobody is under obligation to read my drivel either ;))
 
More than thick enough, i said i simply wouldn't read the rest of his post due to it, doesn't mean i felt personally insulted about it. After all, i mainly fly in open myself these days.

And of course he's under no obligation to be nice. Just as i have no obligation to read drivel like that. (and of course, nobody is under obligation to read my drivel either ;))
Claiming that his post is derogatory indicates otherwise.
 
I did, i found it funny. And not PvPers, gankers. That small subset of PvPers who delight in killing weaker targets. Come on, you must find something funny about that?
Thats the thing. I also see a difference between someone who likes cheap thrills and killing weaker targets for fun, and someone who actually PvPs skill matched opponents.

Both are PvPers, but one might say of a different class.
 
What changed was them not doing anything for 6 months. This is the SOP for reporting vulnerabilities in the tech industry, btw. You inform, give a window to correct, and then go public if they don't. It is not my responsibility to ensure the integrity of FDev's game, it's theirs. PvPers have been facing rampant hacking for nearly a year now which is why we decided to try and do something about it. What do you do when you bring something to the dev's attention and they do nothing about it? You make others aware.

If more people are cheating because of the awareness, I say good. FDev should do something to fix the problem and their community that encourages cheating more than any other game community that I've interacted with. For years, on this very forum, people openly encouraged combat logging (and still do) as a way to avoid legitimate gameplay and FDev did absolutely nothing to help the problem. Mods on this forum openly sympathized with combat loggers and some even combat logged themselves. This behavior absolutely ruined PvP piracy.

Keep in mind though that the specific hack we did our post was locked down a day after our post went up, so the cheats that are being used aren't the ones we posted about.
You did more than inform, you lead people to believe the cheating is way more prevalent than it probably was
Rampant hacking??? so how come the forums were so quiet until you stir it up?

IF you based your "there are a lot of cheaters" claims on HarryPotters ability to recognize cheaters during his streams, i rest my case.
 
You did more than inform, you lead people to believe the cheating is way more prevalent than it probably was
Rampant hacking??? so how come the forums were so quiet until you stir it up?

IF you based your "there are a lot of cheaters" claims on HarryPotters ability to recognize cheaters during his streams, i rest my case.
Someone had to address it and quit pretending that all was well.

Harry may have jumped the gun a bit in that scenario. However I counter your statement by saying that a Mosty Harmless CMDR that is fully engineered and flying the way that specific CMDR flew, would indeed raise a red flag.

The logical conclusion would be an alt account or cheating. And it turned out to be the former.
 
You did more than inform, you lead people to believe the cheating is way more prevalent than it probably was
Rampant hacking??? so how come the forums were so quiet until you stir it up?

IF you based your "there are a lot of cheaters" claims on HarryPotters ability to recognize cheaters during his streams, i rest my case.
Because PvPers generally don't use the forums because of biased modding and the toxicity of the community. Harry runs into more hackers than anyone else in this game specifically because of his visibility, and that scenario, while legit, lends itself to some skepticism. It was a PvPer on a fresh alt account that dunked on him which is always suspect.

I could post 20+ videos of my friends and I encountering obvious cheaters but that is against forum rules so I'll get moderated for it.
 
Only if they notice. I am aware of both
i only occasionally vaguely am. and i maybe even would give a damn if it weren't an exploit/cheat ridden cheese.

i mean, i could even be ok with the massive parallel zerg zombie grinding system (TM), my character would happily immolate himself to that, if it even were implemented properly.

a shame. such a big, big shame. oh well, luckily for him my char has no problem being a complete sociopath and living far removed from all those poor sods mad with fear, hate, greed, power and drowning in their own bullcrap. no problem! (y)
 
Because PvPers generally don't use the forums because of biased modding and the toxicity of the community. Harry runs into more hackers than anyone else in this game specifically because of his visibility, and that scenario, while legit, lends itself to some skepticism. It was a PvPer on a fresh alt account that dunked on him which is always suspect.

I could post 20+ videos of my friends and I encountering obvious cheaters but that is against forum rules so I'll get moderated for it.
Visibility only? No. She's notorious for other reasons I can't get into, because I'll be moderated.
 
So you log in your favorite starport and find the BGS made the faction you got your palladium missions from has been ousted. Or your IF vanished. Not affected? Granted, those are niche cases and don't affect you much, but my point stands they affect you. You may not care, which depends on your playstyle, but the whole game is built on the premise that everything is affected more or less by the BGS.
I understand what you are saying and yes cheaters affect the BGS in the same way that player groups and singles players. Yes, the mission board changes, yes there is a different picture greeting me, so yes I accept that the game is affected, ergo I am affected. But, it doesn't affect me.

I can see that someone using a trainer can target a player group and tank the systems they play in, in the same way that another player group can/does or that (once upon a time) a single player could using UA bombing. I wonder how much this is really happening though, I imagine its only when someone is targeting another group for a specific reason/grievance which is a bit sad really and in my opinion on a par with someone sitting in Eravate in an ubervette killing noobwinders. Each to their own I guess.
 
Because PvPers generally don't use the forums because of biased modding and the toxicity of the community.
Let me condense it: "PvPers generally don't use the forums", "biased modding", "toxicity of the community". All in one sentence, delicious. Whenever I'll feel the need to come up with a prime example of a totally screwed up perception, I'll keep this quote in mind.
Thank you very much, you made my day good Sir! :ROFLMAO:
while I wouldn't be entirely surprised if my post would be modded away LOL
 
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Let me condense it: "PvPers generally don't use the forums", "biased modding", "toxicity of the community". All in one sentence, delicious. Whenever I'll feel the need to come up with a prime example of a totally screwed perception, I'll keep this quote in mind.
Thank you very much, you made my day good Sir! :ROFLMAO:
while I wouldn't be entirely surprised if my post would be modded away LOL
A former mod that has participated in this thread was removed specifically for that, so I dunno what to tell you.
 
Let me condense it: "PvPers generally don't use the forums", "biased modding", "toxicity of the community". All in one sentence, delicious. Whenever I'll feel the need to come up with a prime example of a totally screwed perception, I'll keep this quote in mind.
Thank you very much! :ROFLMAO:
PvPers get their real-life moral character and mental health called into question all the time because of the way they play a video game, with the mods looking on and yawning. Yet the moment some PvE zealot is called a coward or out of touch with reality over melting down because their pixel ship was 'sploded you can bet that there's going to be some snipping.

It's real, whether or not you acknowledge it.
 
Let me condense it: "PvPers generally don't use the forums", "biased modding", "toxicity of the community". All in one sentence, delicious. Whenever I'll feel the need to come up with a prime example of a totally screwed perception, I'll keep this quote in mind.
Thank you very much, you made my day good Sir! :ROFLMAO:
while I wouldn't be entirely surprised if my post would be modded away LOL
Easy killer. The toxicity for PvP is freakishly high on these forums.
 
A former mod that has participated in this thread was removed specifically for that, so I dunno what to tell you.
But I do: With such a bold statement you should be able to deliver some sources at least, or I have to assume you have access to inside knowledge most of us have not. Shady...
 
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