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  1. #61
    if our game is not high-quality and well-received,
    And yet on the otherhand they'll be promising a "AAA title" like they did with RCTw...

    Why on earth would someone invest if they didn't expect at least an effort be made to be 'high quality'? It's almost as if Atari is admitting they probably will make a crap game so don't be surprised if it's a flop...you've been warned! Thus trying to head off future lawsuits I presume?

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by Serpentrax View Post (Source)
    ...but for now we haven't seen the last of that creature wearing the skin of Atari, unfortunately...
    Well the Skin is starting to Rot and stinks up the Place. This and the more and more desperate Moves they try to push are sure Signs they won't be around any longer. Crappy Game after crappy Game pile on top of each other and further weaken their Foothold on the Marketplace. All of this could have been avoided if you just spent some Money on the Games you want so desperately to sell. What you are doing now Atari, is exactly the kind of thing you did back then when the Video Game crash happened. Putting out shovelware and wonder why all of a sudden the Bubble bursts.

    Originally Posted by Luuknoord View Post (Source)
    They compare themselves and the game they are trying to make to games from EA and Activision (yes there are some similarities in the way the companies are driven) but why mention these 2 when they don't make rollercoaster games. Furthermore this document is actually full of excuses why the crowd funding could fail and thus investors might lose their money.
    It is interesting to me that they Namedrop EA and Activision but totally omit Frontier, which are running circles around Atari. Maybe it is pretty safe to mention the Companies which are in no Way competitors to Atari. This little Footnote in their Document really underlines the things you should expect from Atari: Keep the act up that their Games are great, but admitting internally that all of them are great big piles of Poo no Amount of Marketing can fix. To me the People at the Helm of Atari have no clue anymore about Videogames. Their Forte seems to be Marketing and nothing else.
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  3. #63
    Originally Posted by Crowdpleaser View Post (Source)
    It is interesting to me that they Namedrop EA and Activision but totally omit Frontier, which are running circles around Atari. Maybe it is pretty safe to mention the Companies which are in no Way competitors to Atari. This little Footnote in their Document really underlines the things you should expect from Atari: Keep the act up that their Games are great, but admitting internally that all of them are great big piles of Poo no Amount of Marketing can fix. To me the People at the Helm of Atari have no clue anymore about Videogames. Their Forte seems to be Marketing and nothing else.
    Perfectly described!

  4. #64
    yikes they are using the same peeps and building models from rctw. nope just nope.

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by Crowdpleaser View Post (Source)
    Well the Skin is starting to Rot and stinks up the Place. This and the more and more desperate Moves they try to push are sure Signs they won't be around any longer. Crappy Game after crappy Game pile on top of each other and further weaken their Foothold on the Marketplace. All of this could have been avoided if you just spent some Money on the Games you want so desperately to sell. What you are doing now Atari, is exactly the kind of thing you did back then when the Video Game crash happened. Putting out shovelware and wonder why all of a sudden the Bubble bursts.



    It is interesting to me that they Namedrop EA and Activision but totally omit Frontier, which are running circles around Atari. Maybe it is pretty safe to mention the Companies which are in no Way competitors to Atari. This little Footnote in their Document really underlines the things you should expect from Atari: Keep the act up that their Games are great, but admitting internally that all of them are great big piles of Poo no Amount of Marketing can fix. To me the People at the Helm of Atari have no clue anymore about Videogames. Their Forte seems to be Marketing and nothing else.
    Seems to be the downfall of AAA publishing companies in general, thought he best ones still at least remember that some amount of quality is necessary in order to sell games... At least until fear of risk and making the shareholders lead to the hiring of guys that only know marketing and have no idea how to recognize and buy out good development teams... (Pretty sure that's how EA has survived for so long... Buy up an IP and dev team that has proven popular, ride on the popularity of that IP while slowly stripping out everything about it that makes the shareholders nervous, often at the cost of what made the IP popular in the first place... Or kill the IP entirely by trying to turn it into a clone of another popular IP. Blame the Devs, fire the Devs and then look for a new IP and Dev team that is looking for funding and wide distribution.... repeat.)

    The real problem with the industry is that the investors don't really care about the long term survival of the companies they are buying stakes in... They only care about being able to get as much money as they can when they cash out their bets on the companies growth... (The Stock market is basically gambling on the success of the company you're betting money on, and your ability to predict when that success will stop growing. A flawed system in which the gamblers are the house.)

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by Minnion View Post (Source)
    Seems to be the downfall of AAA publishing companies in general, thought he best ones still at least remember that some amount of quality is necessary in order to sell games... At least until fear of risk and making the shareholders lead to the hiring of guys that only know marketing and have no idea how to recognize and buy out good development teams... (Pretty sure that's how EA has survived for so long... Buy up an IP and dev team that has proven popular, ride on the popularity of that IP while slowly stripping out everything about it that makes the shareholders nervous, often at the cost of what made the IP popular in the first place... Or kill the IP entirely by trying to turn it into a clone of another popular IP. Blame the Devs, fire the Devs and then look for a new IP and Dev team that is looking for funding and wide distribution.... repeat.)

    The real problem with the industry is that the investors don't really care about the long term survival of the companies they are buying stakes in... They only care about being able to get as much money as they can when they cash out their bets on the companies growth... (The Stock market is basically gambling on the success of the company you're betting money on, and your ability to predict when that success will stop growing. A flawed system in which the gamblers are the house.)
    Yes, there is a Risk of growing too big. At a certain Point you have different Investors sitting on your Back expecting a (quick) return on their investment. It has been revealed time and time again, that some Publishers have no clue what they are doing and just buckle under the Pressure of the Shareholders.
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  8. #68
    Atari is looking into making it's own crypto-currancy... Well... I guess it's official... they've reached the bottom of the barrel... that didn't take long did it ? ;-)

  9. #69
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    Originally Posted by Funrir_Woulfe View Post (Source)
    Atari is looking into making it's own crypto-currancy... Well... I guess it's official... they've reached the bottom of the barrel... that didn't take long did it ? ;-)
    “The bottom of the barrel” can always be deeper when speaking about Atari.

    No further comment from me as that would break some forum rules.

  10. #70
    They would find new ways. I was to type something they could venture into, but it would be not family friendly, so...
    E dor Planet Coaster! #TeamPC #CosmicCowWow

  11. #71
    They are really grasping at straws if they think their own form of currency would be worth something.

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by KaiRubix View Post (Source)
    They are really grasping at straws if they think their own form of currency would be worth something.
    Well you see i cannot predict the future, but i hope enough people are fed up with Atari so that nobody falls for that stupid crap. But some people still have the Nostalgia Glasses on and are not aware of the new Atari.
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  13. #73

    ATARI - OLD vs NEW

    OLD



    Logo is a Volcano, money pours in from bottom, games & consoles come out from top

    NEW



    Logo is a funnel, money pours in from top, AND IS NEVER SEEN AGAIN, EVER

    ;-)

  14. #74
    First footage of this abomination.

    I don't have the feeling they tried very much to disguise that it's actually just RCT Touch with a new coat.


  15. #75
    It's pretty obvious all they did was slap a new coat of paint on RCT touch just going by that footage, so anyone who tossed money at it we can say
    "TOLD YOU SO"
    Whatever money "investors" put into this was put in someone's pocket, and none of us who saw this coming are not shocked by this at all.
    Looks like they got rid of the need to spend actual cash "feature" of it that must of took all of them a few mins of coding it out.
    Switch owners - don't bother getting this mess - yea I know, they'll get it anyway 'cause RCT on the SWITCH ! =P

  16. #76
    Originally Posted by Luuknoord View Post (Source)
    First footage of this abomination.

    I don't have the feeling they tried very much to disguise that it's actually just RCT Touch with a new coat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOsQLNTByfw
    So it's now like ThemePark but without the management
    - Planet Coaster - - Harry Potter - - Crafts - - Coding -

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  18. #78
    New coat of paint? Its just RCT-T LOL. It appears some effort has gone into actually add more content. Such as a career mode and "sandbox" mode. But I have a funny feeling these modes are just smally changed from the only mode you can do in RCT-T. It actually looks worse visually from what I can see. I'd hope to think the Switch could do a bit better than 2 year old cell phones. But maybe the team is working on that. Its sad really. This game will be meh at the very best. Anyone else notice they neglected to mention Roller Coaster Tycoon World at all? They just mentioned touch and how many people downloaded it and played it like once.

    "As you can see its still a little wonky right now, but we are working on that" -- mmm you mean like you did for Roller Coaster Tycoon World? Oh wait.. you didnt actually fix any of that there did you?

  19. #79
    I think that Frontier should return at developing the RCT franchise and style the new games like Planet Coaster.

  20. #80
    Originally Posted by SoapyIllusion View Post (Source)
    New coat of paint? Its just RCT-T LOL. It appears some effort has gone into actually add more content. Such as a career mode and "sandbox" mode. But I have a funny feeling these modes are just smally changed from the only mode you can do in RCT-T. It actually looks worse visually from what I can see. I'd hope to think the Switch could do a bit better than 2 year old cell phones. But maybe the team is working on that. Its sad really. This game will be meh at the very best. Anyone else notice they neglected to mention Roller Coaster Tycoon World at all? They just mentioned touch and how many people downloaded it and played it like once.

    "As you can see its still a little wonky right now, but we are working on that" -- mmm you mean like you did for Roller Coaster Tycoon World? Oh wait.. you didnt actually fix any of that there did you?
    And the investors they suckered into this probably don't even play computer or video games, or don't actually care if the game is good... They just want to make a quick buck and think enough people are still dumb enough to buy the game on brand recognition alone for that to happen...

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